Is Hitron Going to Be an ISP too?

This is just a rumour that I’ve heard, so I stand to be corrected. But I hear that Hitron maybe getting in on the ISP act with a WiMax service. Hitron’s not new to Internet services with arrangements in the past of re-selling Global internet and selling internet for NewSat. But since going digital in 2008, this was bound to be a natural progression.

Will be keen to see costs in comparison to Telikom’s Teli-Net services (ADSL, WiMax) and the existing ISP’s.

Update: 7/10/10

Well looks like the rumors were true

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20 thoughts on “Is Hitron Going to Be an ISP too?

  1. If Hitron can bring another service to the ever growing need in PNG to move with the rest of the world,I dare say, ‘bring it on’ .At the end of the day we the customers will be the winners.We can have a choice .PNGs need to understand and demand to have a choice of services at this “moment in time”.Monopoly is the in word!I dare say if Hitron is bringing this service to PNGians then so be it.We the customers can pick and choose.

    We the public who use such services would gladly welcome this, Hitron!

  2. Hitron shud be looking at a Network license and not a service license. At the end of the day, Telikom still holds the ace…. no one is going to compete on the APNG2 lines in PNG…. we just have to follow em….

    NewSAT may have a consent for VSAT on the old laws… but with the new laws…. Telikom won’t give em a consent… they will just have to try and get a network license…. and since they don’t have an office in PNG… it’ll be hard….

    Back to the drawing board….

  3. With 802.11 out and 802.16 in almost anyone can be an ISP with the right knowledge and know how,

    WiMax also has massive bandwidth (40mbps)which means one could easily operate a 3G network from it,

    Who needs Digicel and Bemobile ?

  4. Hi guys – I am trying to work how how many ISPs there are in PNG, and how many people use the Internet. None of the stats by international groups like the ITU are accurate for PNG – they don’t any substantial increase in Internet use or activity, but I’m pretty sure, just from reading this and other PNG blogs , that this exists. Does anyone here have any opinions on this? Can you point me to any data sources? Like has anyone noticed an increase in the number of blogs, or forum posts – any way to quantify this? Like someone tracking hits on their website from PNG? Sorry for all the quetsions, just very frustrating (I’m a Phd student in Oz…)

    1. @Sarah,

      Its not unusual for web severs to track users(e.g google)

      Google tracks unique visitors by placing cookies on each visitor’s computer – specifically, each user is assigned a unique ID using a persistent 1st party cookie from Google.

      So, whether you like it or not google still has a way of following you. Also, a unique IP is assigned to each country throughout the world to help with filtering.

      So, id be happy to conclude that that the stats you found on (ITU 120, 000 users/World Bank June/09) http://www.internetworldstats.com/pacific.htm#pg

      is more then accurate on the correct amount on Internet User in PNG. For ISP’s, well there’s Daltron, Datec, Global, Telikom etc. but alot of NGO’s and research institutions have the own satelites e.g. Divine Word University, University of Goroka, Institute of Medical Research, National Agricultural Research Institute, Each of the above might have 500 users at the least, Divine Word Unversity alone might be 2,000 staff and student online everyday, I know coz im in my room posting this right now.

      Top Arvo,

  5. Thanks heaps pawamangi. I really appreciate the information you gave me – especially on ISPs. I guess my concern is that the Internet World Stats don’t show the most recent update 2010 from the ITU (which I don’t have – they cost $AUS300!!), and because they only compare stats from 2000 – 2009 (http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats6.htm). Therefore, it appears as though the growth rate in connections from 2000 – 2009 is 11%. In reality, I think the increase would be greater, if onyl because it would have started from a very low base and increased quite quickly in the past few years as infrastructure/interest improved. I would have thought there would have been a fairly substantial increase in internet use in PNG from about 2007 onwards. What do you think?

    This is something I”m trying to track by, for example, seeing how many new ISPs have appeared in the past few years, how many new PNG blogs have appeared, or whether or not people have noticed more comments on forums etc. So maybe I’ll have to pay for the ITU stats – as you say, tracking ISP connections would be the way to go, and thats something the ITU does..

    Thanks again,

    Sarah.

    1. Hi Sarah,

      Thanks for dropping in on this blog. Send me an email on emmanuel@masalai.net and I’ll give you a list of emails of people in ISP”s you can contact to perhaps get some stats.

      I think perhaps start with how many active subscirbers and email addresses each ISP has under management and then go from there.

      Regards,
      Emmanuel

  6. @sarah, i see you what you mean, It must be extremely frustrating coz there’s no damn free stats out there. The growth rate (11%) is actually over a 8 year period ending 2008. Also,we have the 2nd largest pop. in Oceania which makes our growth rate look like crap compared to those tiny attols. As for increase since 2007 i would agree but i can only back it up with this

    http://www.nationmaster.com/red/country/pp-papua-new-guinea/int-internet&all=1

    About ISP’s Pangtel should have records http://www.pangtel.gov.pg/ but they lack knowledge and expertise and even the capacity to moniter. Thats why the spectrum is always congested.

    Here’s a market overview of the Teleco’s in PNG and there’s an entire chapter dedicated to the Internet. It was compiled in Nov 08 but it cost $70 US Ex-GST.

    http://www.budde.com.au/Research/Papua-New-Guinea-Telecoms-Market-Overview-Statistics.html

    As for blog’s, forums, chat sites there’s alot out there. I know one that uses facebook and youtube to fight corruption

    http://www.bismarckramugroup.com/

    If your realy after raw stats then you better pick up a phone and make a few calls back home.

    Good Luck….

  7. If the PNG ISP’s expand their services, people are going to need a cheap computer to access them.

    How about a band new iPad-style laptop for around K100?

    India is building it.

    India on Thursday unveiled a prototype tablet computer that would sell for a mere 1,500 rupees, or $35 (US$), with the price possibly dropping even further as R&D efforts continue.

    Kapil Sibal, the country’s Minister for Human Resource Development, showed off the super-cheap touch-screen device in New Delhi as part of a push to provide high-quality education to students across the country. The tablet also comes with a solar-power option that could make it more feasible for rural areas.

    The Linux-based computer at first glance resembles an Apple iPad and features basic functions you’d expect to see in a tablet–a Web browser, multimedia player, PDF reader, Wi-Fi, and video conferencing ability. It has 2GB of RAM (but no hard disk, instead using a memory card) and USB ports and could be available to kids from primary school up to the university level as early as next year.

    Students from several branches of the Indian Institute of Technology co-designed motherboards for the computer, which the ministry would like to see dropping to $20 and possibly getting as low as $10.

    Sibal called the as-yet-unnamed device India’s answer to MIT’s famed OLPC laptop aimed at children in developing nations, which started off five years ago with a projected cost of $100, but ended up going for $200. In May, Marvell Technologies announced that it would partner with the OLPC foundation to create the hardware for a proposed OLPC tablet, currently named the XO-3, that would go for around $100.

    But while the extremely low price of India’s newly unveiled tablet is generating much hoopla, the gadget still faces hurdles before it lands in the public’s hands.

    “This is just a prototype,” education expert Zubin Malhotra told Newsxlive. “We need to find people who will be able to manufacture these devices at these price points and continue to develop them going forward.”

    The tablet is part of a larger initiative aimed at improving India’s educational system through technology. Nearly 8,500 colleges in the country have already gotten broadband connectivity, according to the Ministry for Human Resource Development, and some 500 Web-based and video courses are available for upload on YouTube and other online portals, with more in the works.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20011536-1.html

    1. Some of the best software engineers in the world are from India but India is still waaaaaayyyyyyyyy behind in electronics, that $35 or 1,500 rupees would probably be the cost for the SD card since the laptop has no hdd, what about the processor??? If its Ubuntu there planning to use they must have reversed engineered some realy cool alien technology coz you cant make something that cheap to run with all those feature…….as for the OS, PNG’s no nothing about Linux and i cant imagine one of the villagers trying to use the terminal to install MS Office.

      Its also a prototype so we got to wait for overheads and it might and up actually costing $1, 500……

      Catch tara pawa line !!!

  8. Pugee you may be right, but let’s be optimistic.

    On Linux I think you are mistaken. Try using some of the latest Linux notebooks, or an OLPC (which uses Linux). The interface is very simple and easy to use – easier than Windows. You don’t need Microsoft software. Open Office (frdee) is just as good as M’soft Office and there are other free alternatives such as Abiword. I use Open Office all the time.

    Also if you are using an Android-based mobile you are already using Linux without knowing it. If they can make a mobile for K100 which already has most of the guts of a PC inside it, I don’t see why they can’t make a laptop almost as cheap. Plus according to the reports the motherboards which include the CPU, Wifi and video controller have already been produced at very low cost.

  9. Peter, ill try my best to be optimistic,

    The OLPC uses an OS based on the linux kernal meaning its not linux. The GUI is more user friendly thats why it seems simple, so your probably right but ill have to see one of those things to believe it.

    Open office Org and Abiword get the job done but they lack the punch of MS Office with its multifunction capabilities. But there free so thats terrific!

    Maybe im wrong but ive never seen an Android based mobile on sale for K100 ??? Isnt the iPhone Nexus 1, Droid androids ???? They would easily fetch K1000 in PNG. K100 must be the price overseas. So the kina must be greater then the green back, Wow!

  10. You can get a Google Nexus 1 Android phone for $179 in the US. The reason they are more expensive than older phones is that they are marketed as 3G technology. This will change. They are still lot’s cheaper than an iPhone. Also many cheaper Samsung phones use a Linux-based OS. The OS is not the expensive part – in fact its free.

    Plus of course in Linux land the kernel is quite separate from the GUI. There are many GUI’s available, or you can build your own – the beauty of Linux is it’s flexibility. But you shouldn’t judge the OS just on a particular GUI.

    The OLPC has a customised GUI but it’s still Linux.

  11. So a 3G phone is the US is $179=K500, considering PNG has no 3G network then Google Nexus 1=Digicel Coral 100. Price of coral K100 is K20. Maybe less on the street. Android phone’s come packed with too many gadgets and accessories thats why there over price.

    As for Linux, i myself use Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope 9.0.2 and Gnome is great ! I have nothing against Linux because its a real OS but Windows with all its apps and easy to use menu’s would be my recommendation for all those novices in PNG.

  12. Hitron would better be suited to supply video on demand to the increasing number of hotels insted of trying to take on the likes of Datec, Telikom and the like in internet service. Why change a winning formula????

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